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Active Driving Assist Issues

Homar4

Member
The Active Driving Assist in my vehicle does not center the vehicle in the lane. On most roads it hugs the right side which is different than what most people report of the system hugging the left side. I took it to the dealer and after them having the vehicle for nearly a week (incl a couple other minor items) they said a software update fixed it. It’s still not fixed and it appears the dealer has no idea how to calibrate or repair this new system. Anyone have success with calibrating the system to center (from either hugging left or right) or otherwise finding a solution/workaround?
 

eleceng1979

Well-known member
It’s simple… the camera is mounted roughly 6” off center towards the passenger side. Look at your windshield from the front. Software tries to center the camera in the lane, pushing you closer towards the center line. Dumb. Software engineers didn’t pick up on where the sensor was physically installed. There is no calibration to do unless they change the software. The dealers calibration just aligns to vehicle, software dictates offset.

Hugging right side, are you in Europe? Mine was USA hugging left. Maybe camera offset in EU is opposite.

It was easier to just sell the Jeep and switch to a different vehicle to solve my problems as Jeep has 0 intentions on solving any of the problems.
 

SweetAndLow

Well-known member
It’s simple… the camera is mounted roughly 6” off center towards the passenger side. Look at your windshield from the front. Software tries to center the camera in the lane, pushing you closer towards the center line. Dumb. Software engineers didn’t pick up on where the sensor was physically installed. There is no calibration to do unless they change the software. The dealers calibration just aligns to vehicle, software dictates offset.

Hugging right side, are you in Europe? Mine was USA hugging left. Maybe camera offset in EU is opposite.

It was easier to just sell the Jeep and switch to a different vehicle to solve my problems as Jeep has 0 intentions on solving any of the problems.
Our 2021 overland is pretty much dead center usually.
 

Bbiggers340

Well-known member
remember when they said we get software updates over the air that will add features and improve performance…….what a joke, updates break stuff that works. Never seen a new feature. Important updates like the telematics update need to be performed at the dealer.
 

RichSNJ

Well-known member
My 2022 is also pretty much dead center. The issue that I have is that maybe 1 time out of 5 when you first engage the system it doesn't register one side or the other and it will "drift" out of the lane until the lane keeping kicks in. Usually I just disengage and reengage and its ok from then on, but it's annoying.
 

Sarge

Well-known member
Initially, when I got mine in December '21, it spent months driving like a drunken toddler with Alzheimers. It would find the right lane, and simultaneously forget where the left lane marker was and immediately swerve back to the left, and repeat ad nauseam. I noticed it on my 1500 mile drive home. I could get off to fill up my tank (with defective gauge) and get back on the same exact pavement and it would work fine for a while, and then a few drinks later it was back to actively trying to get me pulled over.

After 4-5 months, it stopped doing that (software update I presume), but ever since it has hugged the center line and favored that line as a 'follow' line. Sometimes it will stay centered, the rest of the time I feel like everyone thinks I'm about to play 'chicken' with them. When it works, it's awesome, but that's the case with my Connect/McIntosh system, my wipers, my auto high beams, my rear hatch foot sensor, and so many other things.

A friend of mine who very recently retired from Autoliv told me he lead the development teams on a variety of these systems (he worked on the Apple Car, Google Car, as well as about every other major OEM). He said by far, FCA (now Stellantis) did the absolute worst job of incorporating all of these systems, because they had the lowest quality software engineers in the industry. Where other majors had highly competent teams integrating these systems together, FCA's engineers used them like plug and play legos, and they had the worst time getting things to work right. Which explains everything about my experience so far.

Eventually, they'll probably figure it all out, but as yet I can't even reliably play music from my iPhone on my McIntosh system, and sometimes I still have no sound at all, even on FM radio... and the list is PAGES long.

So, if you got one that works, feel lucky. Everyone else... buy the last model year Jeep with the oldest tech, I guess. I have a lot of patience overall with first model years - I'm a lifelong car guy and almost 50 - but this one has been flat out appalling, and there's no end in sight.
 

Sbradle4

Well-known member
Initially, when I got mine in December '21, it spent months driving like a drunken toddler with Alzheimers. It would find the right lane, and simultaneously forget where the left lane marker was and immediately swerve back to the left, and repeat ad nauseam. I noticed it on my 1500 mile drive home. I could get off to fill up my tank (with defective gauge) and get back on the same exact pavement and it would work fine for a while, and then a few drinks later it was back to actively trying to get me pulled over.

After 4-5 months, it stopped doing that (software update I presume), but ever since it has hugged the center line and favored that line as a 'follow' line. Sometimes it will stay centered, the rest of the time I feel like everyone thinks I'm about to play 'chicken' with them. When it works, it's awesome, but that's the case with my Connect/McIntosh system, my wipers, my auto high beams, my rear hatch foot sensor, and so many other things.

A friend of mine who very recently retired from Autoliv told me he lead the development teams on a variety of these systems (he worked on the Apple Car, Google Car, as well as about every other major OEM). He said by far, FCA (now Stellantis) did the absolute worst job of incorporating all of these systems, because they had the lowest quality software engineers in the industry. Where other majors had highly competent teams integrating these systems together, FCA's engineers used them like plug and play legos, and they had the worst time getting things to work right. Which explains everything about my experience so far.

Eventually, they'll probably figure it all out, but as yet I can't even reliably play music from my iPhone on my McIntosh system, and sometimes I still have no sound at all, even on FM radio... and the list is PAGES long.

So, if you got one that works, feel lucky. Everyone else... buy the last model year Jeep with the oldest tech, I guess. I have a lot of patience overall with first model years - I'm a lifelong car guy and almost 50 - but this one has been flat out appalling, and there's no end in sight.
Sarge,
You’ve been far too patient. Mine is about to be resolved, and I will never own another Stellantis product
 

Nilidool

Member
Wait, it's supposed to center the vehicle in the lane (theoretically anyways)? Mine has never done that! I was out of state last spring and rented a Rav4 and this had this feature and it did a tremendous job doing this! I was amazed how it worked so well and all mine does is bump me from each side of the road when it detects the lines. WTF!!!! Is there a specific setting I need to turn on/off?
 

Sbradle4

Well-known member
Wait, it's supposed to center the vehicle in the lane (theoretically anyways)? Mine has never done that! I was out of state last spring and rented a Rav4 and this had this feature and it did a tremendous job doing this! I was amazed how it worked so well and all mine does is bump me from each side of the road when it detects the lines. WTF!!!! Is there a specific setting I need to turn on/off?
Nope, this is how these dumpsters function
 

SweetAndLow

Well-known member
Wait, it's supposed to center the vehicle in the lane (theoretically anyways)? Mine has never done that! I was out of state last spring and rented a Rav4 and this had this feature and it did a tremendous job doing this! I was amazed how it worked so well and all mine does is bump me from each side of the road when it detects the lines. WTF!!!! Is there a specific setting I need to turn on/off?
What model do you have? Are you sure you have the highway assist feature?

Do you have this button in the middle?2022-Jeep-Grand-Cherokee-L-4x4-Limited-15~2.jpg
 
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RichSNJ

Well-known member
Wait, it's supposed to center the vehicle in the lane (theoretically anyways)? Mine has never done that! I was out of state last spring and rented a Rav4 and this had this feature and it did a tremendous job doing this! I was amazed how it worked so well and all mine does is bump me from each side of the road when it detects the lines. WTF!!!! Is there a specific setting I need to turn on/off?
Are you sure you have Active Driver Assist and not just Lane Keeping assist? What you're describing sounds like how my 2019 with Lane Keeping would act (and how it's supposed to)
 

eleceng1979

Well-known member
In my case yes, it was a SR and had both features. I had to disable the lane assist due to narrow town/rural roads causing the vehicle to always correct towards center, placing me at or over the line. Or constantly turning on/off due to line detection failing to see the right hand white line. With narrow roads and the wheel vibrating or jerking constantly towards the center, clearly a liability.

Active driving would work, but always hug the centerline, do poorly with curves/look ahead in the curve and only truly seemed to drive somewhat confidently on a freeway/straight line. It would panic and swerve away from semi trailers when passing and place the vehicle near the drivers side line/edge of next lane when driving multiple lanes. Overall I had little faith in the system and never used it much. The system would properly detect lanes/lines and fully illuminate green steering wheel and edge detecting symbols in the evic, meaning all is 100% operational.

I mostly used the advanced cruise button, to the left of the button circled to have only advanced cruise control with gap setting, no self driving. The only thing that worked reliably.

This was all in central Ohio. Roads were all good quality pavement/concrete with lane markers, but narrow when considered to other major cities.

The decision to sell it was easier and easier once you make a list of what you paid for vs what didn’t work correctly. I purchased what the windows sticker options said, not promises of it someday working. This behavior of selling dysfunctional hardware, programmed with vaporware is appalling. I invested over 45 days at the dealership and the first 30 days the dealership was not equipped with the latest scan tool to even service it. The second dealer inherited a lawsuit and wasn’t much help due to walking on thin ice/no time. If chip shortages, covid, insert other excuses here are preventing the vehicle from being built/deployed as intended/designed, then park it like ford has done with 40,000+ vehicles. I feel IMO jeep said f’it and pushed them out. Auto stopping in the road, key fob module dying killing vehicle in middle of the road, etc. are all serious problems that have went under the radar at the federal level. It seems the big 3 gets a pass and Tesla not so much. In the end I sadly regretted selling my 2019 GC overland and will never own another Jeep.
 
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RichSNJ

Well-known member
To be honest, I'm not sure. Is that standard on Overland?

Check your window sticker, I think that "Active Lane Management System" is the basic lane keeping, but "Active Driving Assist System" is the self driving feature, and it's an option on the Overland.

If you don't have your sticker you can look it up here with your vin:


Just put your vin on the end of that url and it will show you your window sticker...
 
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