What are these holes?

[FlyingAvocado]

I was looking under my new GCL SR and I found some very large holes on each side, with paint damage. Does anyone know what these holes are for, and why paint would be damaged around them?

 

[hamada128]

Could it be that someone used those locations to lift the car?

 

[FlyingAvocado]

Could it be that someone used those locations to lift the car?

That's my guess as well. But if that is the case I am surprised the dealer didn't put it on a lift rather than jack it up for the PDI though.

 

[MrBreeze]

From my understanding, the lift points are actually the pinch seams - location indicated by the small arrow on the rocker panel. I suspect these are drain holes.

 

[Cvaquerano]

those holes are for install running boards in each side… in each hole you have to introduce t clips… sometimes those holes are covered with plastics

 

[FlyingAvocado]

those holes are for install running boards in each side…

So if the running boards are missing... What would you think happened here? My vehicle had it on the window sticker and build sheet, yet they were not installed.

 

[Cvaquerano]

So if the running boards are missing... What would you think happened here? My vehicle had it on the window sticker and build sheet, yet they were not installed.

You know running boards, crossing bars are extras…
Maybe they planned install it… I don’t know why Jeep has not final inspections in each vehicle my GC L must to have all Jeep emblem in black but the emblem in the front is Crome, I saw another post whit a GC L Without sunroof the panel has buttons for sunroof and another person reply with his GCL picture with a similar GCL without sunroof but the panel hasn’t buttons for sunroof… it’s crazy

 

[MrBreeze]

....running boards? Guess I wouldn't have thought with the system dropping the height for entry/exit that one would need running boards?

 

[j98cherokee]

Those aren't for the running boards. They use rivnuts in much smaller holes. It is likely what the manufacturer used to carry the frame (excuse me... the body) around the assembly line. My vehicle has the same thing and I'd bet everyone does.

 

[Phoenix494]

The one hole appear to be scraped to bare metal. Somehow that des not seem to way it should come from the factory. Good place for rust corrosion to begin.

 

[BlueSurf]

Those aren't for the running boards. They use rivnuts in much smaller holes. It is likely what the manufacturer used to carry the frame (excuse me... the body) around the assembly line. My vehicle has the same thing and I'd bet everyone does.

The rivnuts unfortunately are smaller that the six sided holes visible in flying Avocadoes pictures.
I bought the OEM Side Steps its is a disgrace the Chino Crap that Mopar puts their name on. The rivnuts cannot be crimped since they just rotate in the holes. My Overland doesn't have round holes, it has oval holes with decent covers on them. It is not possible to install the running boards with the instructions provided with the faulty parts. It took me two weeks to find a workaround without damaging my frame. The chassis frame is aluminum. Hardened Aluminum. When I first got the OEM running board kit from Jeep in New Jersey via eBay, I called an 800# from in the box if missing parts. I wanted to let them know the rivnuts are all wrong, the woman started screaming at me that I am not a dealer and then I let her have all of it and hung up. Dealerships haven't put these on cars yet. Covid has ruined the way everything gets done. Here is the finished look. It makes the GC look finished. Before installing the side bards you must remove the entire bottom portion under your doors. That is scary, two screws on the wheel well sides. Then you grab a side by the wheel and "rip" it off , all the pop pins un snap. It is scary to see just how large the bottom panels are. I would not recommend this to anyone. A dealer will take on that responsibility/liability. I'm very happy after all the problems that my running boards are fixed very securely.

 

[Jeep2022GCSR]

The rivnuts unfortunately are smaller that the six sided holes visible in flying Avocadoes pictures.
I bought the OEM Side Steps its is a disgrace the Chino Crap that Mopar puts their name on. The rivnuts cannot be crimped since they just rotate in the holes. My Overland doesn't have round holes, it has oval holes with decent covers on them. It is not possible to install the running boards with the instructions provided with the faulty parts. It took me two weeks to find a workaround without damaging my frame. The chassis frame is aluminum. Hardened Aluminum. When I first got the OEM running board kit from Jeep in New Jersey via eBay, I called an 800# from in the box if missing parts. I wanted to let them know the rivnuts are all wrong, the woman started screaming at me that I am not a dealer and then I let her have all of it and hung up. Dealerships haven't put these on cars yet. Covid has ruined the way everything gets done. Here is the finished look. It makes the GC look finished. Before installing the side bards you must remove the entire bottom portion under your doors. That is scary, two screws on the wheel well sides. Then you grab a side by the wheel and "rip" it off , all the pop pins un snap. It is scary to see just how large the bottom panels are. I would not recommend this to anyone. A dealer will take on that responsibility/liability. I'm very happy after all the problems that my running boards are fixed very securely.

I couldn't agree more, I installed mine as well.
I had a hell of a time getting there rivnuts to work. What did you end up using?

 

[BlueSurf]

I used heavy fishing line tied to the very tip of the bolt. My fishing line was snaked with wire through those oval holes, I pulled them through the hole. I used tape at the tops of the thread so they would not accidentally go back into the channel. Basically I reversed the entire process. All of my hex nuts are on the outside. I tightened them almost to the point of snapping the bolts. On one side I was able to crimp only one nut, all others were reversed. On every reversed nut I was worried that the bolt would spin when tightening it, It didn't, every nut was easy to lock down. I did this in my garage with the suspension on the highest setting. The side steps were a steal of a price. $700. & $29.00 shipping

 

[FlyingAvocado]

The one hole appear to be scraped to bare metal. Somehow that des not seem to way it should come from the factory. Good place for rust corrosion to begin.

That's my concern as well.

Those aren't for the running boards. They use rivnuts in much smaller holes. It is likely what the manufacturer used to carry the frame (excuse me... the body) around the assembly line. My vehicle has the same thing and I'd bet everyone does.

If that is the case, I would expect everyone to have these same markings. I am curious if anyone else has these or not.

 

[Jeep2022GCSR]

I used heavy fishing line tied to the very tip of the bolt. My fishing line was snaked with wire through those oval holes, I pulled them through the hole. I used tape at the tops of the thread so they would not accidentally go back into the channel. Basically I reversed the entire process. All of my hex nuts are on the outside. I tightened them almost to the point of snapping the bolts. On one side I was able to crimp only one nut, all others were reversed. On every reversed nut I was worried that the bolt would spin when tightening it, It didn't, every nut was easy to lock down. I did this in my garage with the suspension on the highest setting. The side steps were a steal of a price. $700. & $29.00 shipping

That was a good idea.
Everything you said was correct.
Removing the body molding was to say the least a pain in the ASS!

 

[j98cherokee]

That's my concern as well.


If that is the case, I would expect everyone to have these same markings. I am curious if anyone else has these or not.

For your viewing pleasure...

 

[eleceng1979]

I would guess locating pins to hold the body to assembly line during assembly. Such large diameter holes only make sense for this. The pins on the lines used to be sleeved in UHMW to prevent this scraping, obviously a green engineer knew better. This is clearly a warranty issue if noticed soon enough and Jeep doesn’t blame you. Clearly it will rust there first. Maybe the liberal application of BS and lies prevents rust instead of proper primer and paints these days.

 

[FlyingAvocado]

For your viewing pleasure...

Huh. It looks like you're right, it probably is how they move it around the factory. Seems silly they don't just put some rubber on the mounts or add a gasket to avoid this. 🤷‍♂️

Thanks for posting this!

 

[eleceng1979]

For precise location during any robotic function, a solid pin is needed. They used to have sleeves but they would get deformed/worn over time and require replacement. During driveline mating workers work under the chassis as it is lifted. Quality is job 1 at the paint booth, 0Fs after that.

Go to the 5:00 mark.

 

[fabricio_wolf]

The rivnuts unfortunately are smaller that the six sided holes visible in flying Avocadoes pictures.
I bought the OEM Side Steps its is a disgrace the Chino Crap that Mopar puts their name on. The rivnuts cannot be crimped since they just rotate in the holes. My Overland doesn't have round holes, it has oval holes with decent covers on them. It is not possible to install the running boards with the instructions provided with the faulty parts. It took me two weeks to find a workaround without damaging my frame. The chassis frame is aluminum. Hardened Aluminum. When I first got the OEM running board kit from Jeep in New Jersey via eBay, I called an 800# from in the box if missing parts. I wanted to let them know the rivnuts are all wrong, the woman started screaming at me that I am not a dealer and then I let her have all of it and hung up. Dealerships haven't put these on cars yet. Covid has ruined the way everything gets done. Here is the finished look. It makes the GC look finished. Before installing the side bards you must remove the entire bottom portion under your doors. That is scary, two screws on the wheel well sides. Then you grab a side by the wheel and "rip" it off , all the pop pins un snap. It is scary to see just how large the bottom panels are. I would not recommend this to anyone. A dealer will take on that responsibility/liability. I'm very happy after all the problems that my running boards are fixed very securely.

Hi Buddy,

Where did you get that rubber sill protector? (Pic RB1)?