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Locking gas door

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hcl

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catsartcox said:
In this video he does a walk around of a car show Trailhawk 4xe Grand and it shows the fuel button:
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It is just in an area that is normally blank on none 4xe Grands.
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He doesn't call it out, but is the fuel icon shown in this review the possible fuel door release? The specs have been so vague on these models, and there are no 4xes in show rooms, so it takes some sleuthing to figure out how each model is equipped. Some WL74 owners have confirmed they have no fuel door release button, but is it possible the 4xes do? Is that what is shown here:
 

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sikclown

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hcl said:
He doesn't call it out, but is the fuel icon shown in this review the possible fuel door release? The specs have been so vague on these models, and there are no 4xes in show rooms, so it takes some sleuthing to figure out how each model is equipped. Some WL74 owners have confirmed they have no fuel door release button, but is it possible the 4xes do? Is that what is shown here:
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My gut says that is simply due to it being pre-production and using parts from current models. The Compass 4xe I drove in Iceland has this exact setup, buttins and all with a locking gas door. They got rid of it on the GC for some reason but it is definitely gone.
 
First_JGC_Dave

First_JGC_Dave

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I have a brand new ‘22 WL74 (2-row) GC. There is no locking fuel door. You push the fuel door once and it pops open. There is no separate fuel cap either. It is built-into the fuel door. Doesn’t matter whether the truck is on or off or if the doors are open, closed, or locked. It opens. I think it was a miss by Jeep. If the doors are locked, so too should the fuel door in my opinion. But that said, I’m also not terribly worried about it.
 
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Indigovic

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Most of the 2022 4xe “First Drive” videos have lengthy shots of the dash area by the driver’s left knee, since that’s where the EV/Hybrid/eSave mode buttons are, and there’s always a fuel door button right next to them. A couple of these videos also show that the EV charger door is push-to-open.

So it looks like the 4xe has a gas door that locks and a charger door that doesn’t.
 
RoyHobbs

RoyHobbs

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Indigovic said:
Most of the 2022 4xe “First Drive” videos have lengthy shots of the dash area by the driver’s left knee, since that’s where the EV/Hybrid/eSave mode buttons are, and there’s always a fuel door button right next to them. A couple of these videos also show that the EV charger door is push-to-open.

So it looks like the 4xe has a gas door that locks and a charger door that doesn’t.
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At least one of the First Look videos stated that the charge port door locks/unlocks with the doors.
 
catsartcox

catsartcox

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Wait, why are you messing with me when you also posting information on what we all already have been saying? I don’t get your angle; especially when this is something as simple a fuel button.
 
GCOverland

GCOverland

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I heard in the past that plug-in hybrid vehicles 'require' a locked/push-button release fuel-door. My Lincoln has it although the non-plug-in hybrid models do not.
 
RoyHobbs

RoyHobbs

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catsartcox said:
Wait, why are you messing with me when you also posting information on what we all already have been saying? I don’t get your angle; especially when this is something as simple a fuel button.
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@catsartcox, while most Canadians are stereotypically nice, Jake22 is basically a disgruntled ass.
 
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Indigovic

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Interesting: the 4xe supplemental manual says that pressing the fuel filler door release doesn’t just pop the fuel door latch: “Pushing the button will initiate a sequence of events to depressurize the fuel system. A message will display in the cluster when the vehicle is ready to be fueled.… The fuel door should take 15 seconds to open under normal conditions. It may take longer to open in some situations, such as high ambient temperatures or high altitudes.”

So that’s why the 4xe has a fuel door button when the non-4xe doesn’t.

(There’s also an “Emergency Fuel Door Release” connected behind the grocery hook in the cargo area—you have to rotate it a quarter-turn to pull it out!)
 
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hcl

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Indigovic said:
Interesting: the 4xe supplemental manual says that pressing the fuel filler door release doesn’t just pop the fuel door latch: “Pushing the button will initiate a sequence of events to depressurize the fuel system. A message will display in the cluster when the vehicle is ready to be fueled.… The fuel door should take 15 seconds to open under normal conditions. It may take longer to open in some situations, such as high ambient temperatures or high altitudes.”

So that’s why the 4xe has a fuel door button when the non-4xe doesn’t.

(There’s also an “Emergency Fuel Door Release” connected behind the grocery hook in the cargo area—you have to rotate it a quarter-turn to pull it out!)
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Yes, that's what I saw too. It seems the 4xe ICE operates with some kind of vacuum in the gas tank. Now it seems like it's a bit of a process to open the fuel door, but maybe the non-responsive conditions they reference are rare. So it's either a non-locking fuel door, or an elaborate, 15 second vacuum unsealing process, (with a probably always adequate, but strangely limited 20 minute period in which you can pump).
 
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