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A car suddenly slows in front of the new Jeep and hard breaking reacts before I do with the ACC activated. The question is... do brake lights come on too? or are we subject to attack from behind?

It's a good deal. We got the unlimited mi./years on an"09 wk for 900 front diff and a transfer case came out to 6,000. Got a new 2021 wk2 with extended, warranty and maintenance.

the blower door gear is broken, the new ones won't break. take out the glove box, 20$ part. you tube videos.

the WK overland 5.7 is starting to get expensive, now the engine light. feels like it's stuck in economy mode. It will not be a Volvo, it will be a wk2 80th the color mrs. wants. down the road we'll see about the WL.

I heard November ?? don't know, don't care. went and bought a '21 GC in the color we wanted, 80th group.

actually in fact numbers began in 2000 our 2009 WK has a 9 in the 10 spot. letters began with A in 2010

10 is always year M is 21, starting with A in 2000, no I or O. number 1-9 began 1991

and a Summit can be had for less than a similarly equipped Overland, but it won't have the off road group.

would rather not

the tenth digit in the vin is year. M is what shows up on all of the availability lists, works out to 2021.

all we see are Limiteds and one Overland, with v6, no off road group

would that include availability for a 2022 WL74?

launch is how far off? 6 months , 9 months? tiring of this may go look at Volvo. everyone else is delivering.

I think I will too, our salesman is ready whenever they open the order book.

all efforts are going to the L, the 2021 Overland is probably out of production. It looks like a long wait for a 5 passenger at this time.

my dealer says six weeks

Just wondering here.. if these are proposed color options.

The Wagoneer would be a great ski resort shuttle.

I like that the lower fascia has a grill, our WK was open and the radiator took some rocks and bugs, replaced at 100,000 miles.

the WL74 will likely replace our '08 hemi overland. The '08 has been terrific, could not give it up for the current version. my wife will want the first one she sees, I'm hoping to build our seventh Jeep on order day and pick it up at the factory.