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Paddle shifters

hcl

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For what it is worth, I can configure a 2024 Summit on the USA company car web site and it does include the ELSD. This is the only model that does include ELSD. Generally they do not allow you to configure anything that cannot be built.


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Yes, eLSD is clearly listed among the standard equipment on the Summits, but every sticker I have been able to find for delivered Summits shows it as deleted, (with a meager $400 credit). Also, the dealers I've spoken to say that Dealer Connect confirms that the option isn't offered, (despite remaining on the build site), with no known date for availability in the future. Also, as I understood it, eLSD is what enabled Quadra-Drive II, that is the continuous redistribution to wheels with traction, as opposed to the intermittent braking used for Quadra-Trac II. I don't see where Quadra-Drive II is offered anywhere now.
 

chry3d

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Yes, eLSD is clearly listed among the standard equipment on the Summits, but every sticker I have been able to find for delivered Summits shows it as deleted, (with a meager $400 credit). Also, the dealers I've spoken to say that Dealer Connect confirms that the option isn't offered, (despite remaining on the build site), with no known date for availability in the future. Also, as I understood it, eLSD is what enabled Quadra-Drive II, that is the continuous redistribution to wheels with traction, as opposed to the intermittent braking used for Quadra-Trac II. I don't see where Quadra-Drive II is offered anywhere now.
I went back and looked at old code guides (USA Only) and the last time any code guide mentions Quadra-Drive II (AWB) is 2021. Then it is only ever associated with the TrailHawk model. AWB never appears on code guides for 2022, 2023 or 2024 GC. AWB was Trailhawk only, not on any other model according to the code guides I have. Also, AWB is not available on the 4xE either in 2023 or 2024, only Quadra-Trac II. ELSD (DSF) is still listed for the 2023 and 2024 4xE Trailhawk. So from what I see QD II died with the WK model and is not on any WL. According to the code guides I have which go back several years. ELSD was available on the old WK for Trailhawk and Summit but NOT QD II, as I said that is only Trailhawk. I only have USA code guides. I have had several Trailhawks in the past.
 

hcl

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I went back and looked at old code guides (USA Only) and the last time any code guide mentions Quadra-Drive II (AWB) is 2021. Then it is only ever associated with the TrailHawk model. AWB never appears on code guides for 2022, 2023 or 2024 GC. AWB was Trailhawk only, not on any other model according to the code guides I have. Also, AWB is not available on the 4xE either in 2023 or 2024, only Quadra-Trac II. ELSD (DSF) is still listed for the 2023 and 2024 4xE Trailhawk. So from what I see QD II died with the WK model and is not on any WL. According to the code guides I have which go back several years. ELSD was available on the old WK for Trailhawk and Summit but NOT QD II, as I said that is only Trailhawk. I only have USA code guides. I have had several Trailhawks in the past.
Doesn't Quadra-Trac II with eLSD = Quadra-Drive II?
 

hcl

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Both systems listed below...case closed! :oops:

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Just looking at the Jeep.ca site, even though they come off the same line, there are clearly configurations that can be ordered in CA that aren't offered in the US. Beyond that, the Trailhawk ICE on the sticker you show can't even be ordered in CA. So while the 4xe seem to have the eLSD that provides Quadra-Drive II, since eLSD+Quadra-Trac II = Quadra-Drive II, eLSD currently keeps getting deleted on the ICE Summits that list it as standard.
 

chry3d

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Yes I see that but my label is a USA model and in it, there is no mention at all of Quadra-Trac II. So once again the Canadian and USA stickers are totally different. The stuff you post does not match the USA market. I also see your label does not mention ELSD so apparently in the Canadian market Quadra-Drive II means ELSD where in the USA market it says ELSD and no mention of Quadra-Trac II. Same thing probably but labeled differently.


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hcl

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Yes I see that but my label is a USA model and in it, there is no mention at all of Quadra-Trac II. So once again the Canadian and USA stickers are totally different. The stuff you post does not match the USA market. I also see your label does not mention ELSD so apparently in the Canadian market Quadra-Drive II means ELSD where in the USA market it says ELSD and no mention of Quadra-Trac II. Same thing probably but labeled differently.


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Yes, Jake keeps posting Jeep.CA configurations that, for some inexplicable reason, can't be configured on Jeep.COM, such Overland with Steel Grey int. and hands free driving assist on any model. Then while the eLSD is still listed as standard on the Summits, (it does look like Quadra-Trac II + eLSD = Quadra-Drive II, where instead of the periodic, per-wheel braking on Quadra-Trac II to selectively deliver torque where there's traction, the Quadra-Drive verision continuously throttles power to tractionless wheels), eLSD has been deleted on every US delivered Summit since at least September.
 
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